[OB] My $.02 's worth.

Thu Sep 11 11:13:47 EST 2008

I have tried several Cardbus/USB2 cards in my OB800/166 (which is running W2K.)

Only one, a D-Link DUB-C2 (2 ports) generated enough power from the USB port to enable attachment of a Blackberry (in my case, a Verizon Blackberry 7130 I was using a couple of years ago) which needs some amount of power from the USB port. I didn't try a conventional hard disc drive. The Omnibook did get a little warmer than normal (I'd imagine it's power regulator for PCMCIA slots) but wasn't adversely affected. I doubt a hard drive would work because those need even more current on the USB port. Unfortunately, the DUB-C2 does not have provision for an external power supply (unlike the other two USB cards I tried)...

Dave

> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth. (Scott Stewart)
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> Has anyone that has one of the USB2 cards working on an OB800 had any luck
> getting an external HDD or thumbdrive to work off it? I've only had luck
> with PCMCIA based HDD kits or externally powered larger HDDs. I also
> couldn't get a USB keyboard/mouse to work. Anybody had any luck there? I
> fired up my old 425 the other day with 4 rechargables. Works great but now
> I'm back to my old reliable 530 because I need the enhanced mode for the
> beloved Ecco Pro. I remember posting a software problem to another list and
> some wit wrote back that if I liked the b/w obs his kids had an
> etch-a-sketch I could have. But the other day I was sitting out on the deck
> in the full sun getting some work done and reading a PDF. Still useful
> after all these years! Scott Stewart
>
>
>
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> 3. Re: My $.02 's worth. (Christopher Erickson)
> 4. Re: My $.02 's worth. (Michel Bel)
> 5. Re: My $.02 's worth. (Andrew Lovell)
> 6. Re: My $.02 's worth. (Kevin Curran)
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> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:19:53 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
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> From: "Reed Turner" 
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> Just a comment on the USB adapters - the OB800 has a cardbus slot and the
> pcmcia USB 2.0 adapters that are common on ebay will work in them. I was
> never able to find a pcmcia to usb adapter that would work on the 425/430
> models.
>
> Reed
>
> 2008/9/10 Kevin Curran 
>
>> Ta Da!!, I revived the OB425's using fresh double AA's overnight.
>> Thank you all for your suggestions. This list, even in its moribund
>> phase, gets things done. Thank you all.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrew Lovell
>> Sent: Sep 8, 2008 3:02 PM
>> To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list
>> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> The standard technique for radio hams when confronted with an old
>> piece of equipment with valves (tubes) is to use a Variac and connect
>> it to low voltage for a day or two, then increase the voltage slowly to
> full value.
>>
>> This gives old, dry electrolyctic capacitors time to "re-form" - which
>> is analogous to re-charging a battery that has not been used for some
>> time. The same phenomenon may well be observed in old Omnibooks, if
>> they have any electrolytic capacitors.
>>
>> While I am writing, I would like to put out a general call for a
>> 16-bit PCMCIA / USB 1.1 adapter. I have searched the net and eBay for
>> a week but have not been able to find one.
>>
>> Yours
>>
>> Andrew Lovell
>> SM6MOJ
>>
>>
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> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:00:17 -0800
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> Actually the 133mhz and 166mhz 800CT models support CardBus.
>
> The 100Mhz 800 model does not support CardBus.
>
> "My advice is always free and worth every penny!"
>
> -Christopher Erickson
> Network Design Engineer
> 5432 E. Northern Lights Blvd., Suite 529 Anchorage, AK 99508 N61? 11.710'
> W149? 46.723'
> Meade 16" LX200 SCT
> www.data-plumber.com
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> Data-Plumber.com archives are always
> welcome via PayPal to
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> [mailto:omnibook-bounces at lists.elektro.com] On Behalf Of Reed Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:29 PM
> To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list
> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>
>
> Just a comment on the USB adapters - the OB800 has a cardbus slot and the
> pcmcia USB 2.0 adapters that are common on ebay will work in them. I was
> never able to find a pcmcia to usb adapter that would work on the 425/430
> models.
>
> Reed
>
>
> 2008/9/10 Kevin Curran 
>
>
> Ta Da!!, I revived the OB425's using fresh double AA's overnight. Thank you
> all for your suggestions. This list, even in its moribund phase, gets
> things done. Thank you all.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Lovell
> Sent: Sep 8, 2008 3:02 PM
> To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list
> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>
> Hi
>
> The standard technique for radio hams when confronted with an old piece of
> equipment with valves (tubes) is to use a Variac and connect it to low
> voltage for a day or two, then increase the voltage slowly to full value.
>
> This gives old, dry electrolyctic capacitors time to "re-form" - which is
> analogous to re-charging a battery that has not been used for some time. The
> same phenomenon may well be observed in old Omnibooks, if they have any
> electrolytic capacitors.
>
> While I am writing, I would like to put out a general call for a 16-bit
> PCMCIA / USB 1.1 adapter. I have searched the net and eBay for a week but
> have not been able to find one.
>
> Yours
>
> Andrew Lovell
> SM6MOJ
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:57:30 +0200
> From: Michel Bel 
> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
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> Kevin Curran wrote:
>> Ta Da!!, I revived the OB425's using fresh double AA's overnight.
>> Thank you all for your suggestions. This list, even in its moribund
>> phase, gets things done. Thank you all.
>>
> My word, Kevin...Moribund? Shame on you - It's called _'hibernating'_
> - just waiting for a new spring. 
>
> OK, with - finally- those new (old hat) netbooks finally popping up, WE are
> the ones that survived the long winter on our OB's, and know what those
> things really should do. Evolution apparently finally caught up after 15
> years, with ASUS reviving the concept that HP discarded, (Although PSION
> tried to keep alive with it's NetBook, but the CE handheld concept requires
> it's own hackers, e.g. on http://www.hpcfactor.com et al. - and oh yes, we
> run Linux on our HP Jornada's now, and our NEC 900C's handhelds )
>
> And still - running a lean DSL Linux on an OB800CT with refurbished
> batteries and a 4GB CF card in lieu of a hard disk, ( Total refurbish cost
> about $40) keeps it well up with the new netbooks. Now why doesn't my pop-up
> mouse work yet in DSL...
> Anyway, I still have instant-on, now on a mixed W95/Linux system. And it
> even has WIFI/WPA (under DSL that is).
>
> Michel
> PS: (still there) and still in love with good old hardware
>
> - OB 425, 600C, 800CT 166/80MB
> - 95LX, 100LX, 200LX, 700LX
> - Jornada 720 with Jlime linux, Nec 900C with cmonex rom and/or jlime
> henchman linux
> - more older antiques waiting for display room: Epson PX-8 etc...
>
> PPS: Oh yes, my first PC ( really Personal Computer) was the university's
> DEC PDP-8 in a corner of the computer center of the Math building.
> wholly personal, with big 8KB of memory, a real teletype ASR-33 for input
> and output, and with real DecTape random access storage to load FOCAL.
> In 1972 much better than the faster CDC/Cyber; no waiting in line, punching
> cards and waiting for the batch output...
> Oh, those memories of REAL cut-and-paste (papertape FYI).....
> ( I don't miss any of it though, there are so much new toys to play with, or
> old toys to keep alive for a 57 year old hacker....)
>
> PPPS: Finally - coming back to the OB425: Where elsewhere do we find a real
> PC running on 4 AA's?
> and with those new 3000mAh AA NiMh batteries it runs forever.
> And my OB800 now has a 4400mAh Li-Ion now....
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:51:03 +0200
> From: Andrew Lovell 
> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
> To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list 
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>
> Hi
>
> I would like to thank Reed Turner and Christopher Erickson for their
> advice. I will go straight down to the computer shop and get a
> Cardbus / USB card.
>
> The help given by members of the Omnibook list is quite invaluable.
> When the web site comes alive again, I will have to download all the
> manuals, so I can "upgrade" to Win98SE or Ubuntu and use the USB card.
>
> "Modern" laptops may be OK, but the keyboard and form factor have
> allowed me to work with my 600 on shaky regional trains. This is
> worth much more than fancy graphics and ability to use the latest windoze
> GUI.
>
> Yours
>
> Andrew Lovell
>
> At 01:28 08-09-11, you wrote:
>>Just a comment on the USB adapters - the OB800 has a cardbus slot
>>and the pcmcia USB 2.0 adapters that are common on ebay will work in
>>them. I was never able to find a pcmcia to usb adapter that would
>>work on the 425/430 models.
>>
>>Reed
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> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:09:55 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
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> Sorry, my mistake, ahem, hibernating.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Michel Bel 
>>Sent: Sep 11, 2008 3:57 AM
>>To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list 
>>Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>>
>>Kevin Curran wrote:
>>> Ta Da!!, I revived the OB425's using fresh double AA's overnight.
>>> Thank you all for your suggestions. This list, even in its moribund
>>> phase, gets things done. Thank you all.
>>>
>>My word, Kevin...Moribund? Shame on you - It's called _'hibernating'_
>>- just waiting for a new spring. 
>>
>>OK, with - finally- those new (old hat) netbooks finally popping up, WE
>>are the ones that survived the long winter on
>>our OB's, and know what those things really should do. Evolution
>>apparently finally caught up after 15 years, with ASUS
>>reviving the concept that HP discarded, (Although PSION tried to keep
>>alive with it's NetBook, but the CE handheld concept
>>requires it's own hackers, e.g. on http://www.hpcfactor.com et al. - and
>>oh yes, we run Linux on our HP Jornada's now, and
>>our NEC 900C's handhelds )
>>
>>And still - running a lean DSL Linux on an OB800CT with refurbished
>>batteries and a 4GB CF card in lieu of a hard disk,
>>( Total refurbish cost about $40) keeps it well up with the new
>>netbooks. Now why doesn't my pop-up mouse work yet in DSL...
>>Anyway, I still have instant-on, now on a mixed W95/Linux system. And it
>>even has WIFI/WPA (under DSL that is).
>>
>>Michel
>>PS: (still there) and still in love with good old hardware
>>
>>- OB 425, 600C, 800CT 166/80MB
>>- 95LX, 100LX, 200LX, 700LX
>>- Jornada 720 with Jlime linux, Nec 900C with cmonex rom and/or jlime
>>henchman linux
>>- more older antiques waiting for display room: Epson PX-8 etc...
>>
>>PPS: Oh yes, my first PC ( really Personal Computer) was the
>>university's DEC PDP-8 in a corner
>>of the computer center of the Math building.
>>wholly personal, with big 8KB of memory, a real teletype ASR-33 for
>>input and output,
>>and with real DecTape random access storage to load FOCAL.
>>In 1972 much better than the faster CDC/Cyber; no waiting in line,
>>punching cards
>>and waiting for the batch output...
>>Oh, those memories of REAL cut-and-paste (papertape FYI).....
>>( I don't miss any of it though, there are so much new toys to play
>>with, or old toys to
>>keep alive for a 57 year old hacker....)
>>
>>PPPS: Finally - coming back to the OB425: Where elsewhere do we find a
>>real PC running on 4 AA's?
>>and with those new 3000mAh AA NiMh batteries it runs forever.
>>And my OB800 now has a 4400mAh Li-Ion now....
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Omnibook HP Notebook Computer list
>>Omnibook at lists.elektro.com
>>http://lists.elektro.com/mailman/listinfo/omnibook
>
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> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:38:01 -0800
> From: "Christopher Erickson" 
> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
> To: "'HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list'"
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> Are you referring to my web site? (24.237.160.4 / www.roboscope.net / www.data-plumber.com) ?
>
> If so then the archives should be fully transitioned to www.roboscope.net and hosted in Germany in the next few days.
>
> If all goes well...
>
> "My advice is always free and worth every penny!"
>
> -Christopher Erickson
> Network Design Engineer
> 5432 E. Northern Lights Blvd., Suite 529
> Anchorage, AK 99508
> N61? 11.710' W149? 46.723'
> Meade 16" LX200 SCT
> www.data-plumber.com
>
> "Monetary contributions to support the
> Data-Plumber.com archives are always
> welcome via PayPal to
> christopher.k.erickson at gmail.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
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> From: omnibook-bounces at lists.elektro.com [mailto:omnibook-bounces at lists.elektro.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lovell
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:51 AM
> To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list
> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>
>
> Hi
>
> I would like to thank Reed Turner and Christopher Erickson for their advice. I will go straight down to the computer shop and get a
> Cardbus / USB card.
>
> The help given by members of the Omnibook list is quite invaluable. When the web site comes alive again, I will have to download all
> the manuals, so I can "upgrade" to Win98SE or Ubuntu and use the USB card.
>
> "Modern" laptops may be OK, but the keyboard and form factor have allowed me to work with my 600 on shaky regional trains. This is
> worth much more than fancy graphics and ability to use the latest windoze GUI.
>
> Yours
>
> Andrew Lovell
>
> At 01:28 08-09-11, you wrote:
>
>
> Just a comment on the USB adapters - the OB800 has a cardbus slot and the pcmcia USB 2.0 adapters that are common on ebay will work
> in them. I was never able to find a pcmcia to usb adapter that would work on the 425/430 models.
>
> Reed
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> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:22:38 -0800
> From: "Christopher Erickson" 
> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth. (Scott Stewart)
> To: "'HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list'"
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> I seem to remember having luck as long as I was using Win98SE
> or Win2k-Pro but my memory isn't what it used to be! Win98 and
> Win95 were busts.
>
> "My advice is always free and worth every penny!"
>
> -Christopher Erickson
> Network Design Engineer
> 5432 E. Northern Lights Blvd., Suite 529
> Anchorage, AK 99508
> N61? 11.710' W149? 46.723'
> Meade 16" LX200 SCT
> www.data-plumber.com
>
> "Monetary contributions to support the
> Data-Plumber.com archives are always
> welcome via PayPal to
> christopher.k.erickson at gmail.com"
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: omnibook-bounces at lists.elektro.com
>> [mailto:omnibook-bounces at lists.elektro.com] On Behalf Of Scott Stewart
>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:16 AM
>> To: omnibook at lists.elektro.com
>> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth. (Scott Stewart)
>>
>> Has anyone that has one of the USB2 cards working on an OB800
>> had any luck
>> getting an external HDD or thumbdrive to work off it? I've
>> only had luck
>> with PCMCIA based HDD kits or externally powered larger HDDs. I also
>> couldn't get a USB keyboard/mouse to work. Anybody had any
>> luck there? I
>> fired up my old 425 the other day with 4 rechargables. Works
>> great but now
>> I'm back to my old reliable 530 because I need the enhanced
>> mode for the
>> beloved Ecco Pro. I remember posting a software problem to
>> another list and
>> some wit wrote back that if I liked the b/w obs his kids had an
>> etch-a-sketch I could have. But the other day I was sitting
>> out on the deck
>> in the full sun getting some work done and reading a PDF.
>> Still useful
>> after all these years! Scott Stewart
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: omnibook-bounces at lists.elektro.com
>> [mailto:omnibook-bounces at lists.elektro.com] On Behalf Of
>> omnibook-request at lists.elektro.com
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>> 3. Re: My $.02 's worth. (Christopher Erickson)
>> 4. Re: My $.02 's worth. (Michel Bel)
>> 5. Re: My $.02 's worth. (Andrew Lovell)
>> 6. Re: My $.02 's worth. (Kevin Curran)
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>> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:19:53 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
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>> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:28:32 -0600
>> From: "Reed Turner" 
>> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>> To: "HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list" 
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>> Just a comment on the USB adapters - the OB800 has a cardbus
>> slot and the
>> pcmcia USB 2.0 adapters that are common on ebay will work in
>> them. I was
>> never able to find a pcmcia to usb adapter that would work on
>> the 425/430
>> models.
>>
>> Reed
>>
>> 2008/9/10 Kevin Curran 
>>
>>> Ta Da!!, I revived the OB425's using fresh double AA's overnight.
>>> Thank you all for your suggestions. This list, even in its
>> moribund
>>> phase, gets things done. Thank you all.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrew Lovell
>>> Sent: Sep 8, 2008 3:02 PM
>>> To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list
>>> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> The standard technique for radio hams when confronted with an old
>>> piece of equipment with valves (tubes) is to use a Variac
>> and connect
>>> it to low voltage for a day or two, then increase the
>> voltage slowly to
>> full value.
>>>
>>> This gives old, dry electrolyctic capacitors time to
>> "re-form" - which
>>> is analogous to re-charging a battery that has not been
>> used for some
>>> time. The same phenomenon may well be observed in old Omnibooks, if
>>> they have any electrolytic capacitors.
>>>
>>> While I am writing, I would like to put out a general call for a
>>> 16-bit PCMCIA / USB 1.1 adapter. I have searched the net
>> and eBay for
>>> a week but have not been able to find one.
>>>
>>> Yours
>>>
>>> Andrew Lovell
>>> SM6MOJ
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Omnibook HP Notebook Computer list
>>> Omnibook at lists.elektro.com
>>> http://lists.elektro.com/mailman/listinfo/omnibook
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>> From: "Christopher Erickson" 
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>>
>> Actually the 133mhz and 166mhz 800CT models support CardBus.
>>
>> The 100Mhz 800 model does not support CardBus.
>>
>> "My advice is always free and worth every penny!"
>>
>> -Christopher Erickson
>> Network Design Engineer
>> 5432 E. Northern Lights Blvd., Suite 529 Anchorage, AK 99508
>> N61? 11.710'
>> W149? 46.723'
>> Meade 16" LX200 SCT
>> www.data-plumber.com
>>
>> "Monetary contributions to support the
>> Data-Plumber.com archives are always
>> welcome via PayPal to
>> christopher.k.erickson at gmail.com"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: omnibook-bounces at lists.elektro.com
>> [mailto:omnibook-bounces at lists.elektro.com] On Behalf Of Reed Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:29 PM
>> To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list
>> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>>
>>
>> Just a comment on the USB adapters - the OB800 has a cardbus
>> slot and the
>> pcmcia USB 2.0 adapters that are common on ebay will work in
>> them. I was
>> never able to find a pcmcia to usb adapter that would work on
>> the 425/430
>> models.
>>
>> Reed
>>
>>
>> 2008/9/10 Kevin Curran 
>>
>>
>> Ta Da!!, I revived the OB425's using fresh double AA's
>> overnight. Thank you
>> all for your suggestions. This list, even in its moribund phase, gets
>> things done. Thank you all.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrew Lovell
>> Sent: Sep 8, 2008 3:02 PM
>> To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list
>> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> The standard technique for radio hams when confronted with an
>> old piece of
>> equipment with valves (tubes) is to use a Variac and connect it to low
>> voltage for a day or two, then increase the voltage slowly to
>> full value.
>>
>> This gives old, dry electrolyctic capacitors time to
>> "re-form" - which is
>> analogous to re-charging a battery that has not been used for
>> some time. The
>> same phenomenon may well be observed in old Omnibooks, if
>> they have any
>> electrolytic capacitors.
>>
>> While I am writing, I would like to put out a general call
>> for a 16-bit
>> PCMCIA / USB 1.1 adapter. I have searched the net and eBay
>> for a week but
>> have not been able to find one.
>>
>> Yours
>>
>> Andrew Lovell
>> SM6MOJ
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:57:30 +0200
>> From: Michel Bel 
>> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>> To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list 
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>> Kevin Curran wrote:
>>> Ta Da!!, I revived the OB425's using fresh double AA's overnight.
>>> Thank you all for your suggestions. This list, even in its
>> moribund
>>> phase, gets things done. Thank you all.
>>>
>> My word, Kevin...Moribund? Shame on you - It's called _'hibernating'_
>> - just waiting for a new spring. 
>>
>> OK, with - finally- those new (old hat) netbooks finally
>> popping up, WE are
>> the ones that survived the long winter on our OB's, and know
>> what those
>> things really should do. Evolution apparently finally caught
>> up after 15
>> years, with ASUS reviving the concept that HP discarded,
>> (Although PSION
>> tried to keep alive with it's NetBook, but the CE handheld
>> concept requires
>> it's own hackers, e.g. on http://www.hpcfactor.com et al. -
>> and oh yes, we
>> run Linux on our HP Jornada's now, and our NEC 900C's handhelds )
>>
>> And still - running a lean DSL Linux on an OB800CT with refurbished
>> batteries and a 4GB CF card in lieu of a hard disk, ( Total
>> refurbish cost
>> about $40) keeps it well up with the new netbooks. Now why
>> doesn't my pop-up
>> mouse work yet in DSL...
>> Anyway, I still have instant-on, now on a mixed W95/Linux
>> system. And it
>> even has WIFI/WPA (under DSL that is).
>>
>> Michel
>> PS: (still there) and still in love with good old hardware
>>
>> - OB 425, 600C, 800CT 166/80MB
>> - 95LX, 100LX, 200LX, 700LX
>> - Jornada 720 with Jlime linux, Nec 900C with cmonex rom and/or jlime
>> henchman linux
>> - more older antiques waiting for display room: Epson PX-8 etc...
>>
>> PPS: Oh yes, my first PC ( really Personal Computer) was the
>> university's
>> DEC PDP-8 in a corner of the computer center of the Math building.
>> wholly personal, with big 8KB of memory, a real teletype
>> ASR-33 for input
>> and output, and with real DecTape random access storage to load FOCAL.
>> In 1972 much better than the faster CDC/Cyber; no waiting in
>> line, punching
>> cards and waiting for the batch output...
>> Oh, those memories of REAL cut-and-paste (papertape FYI).....
>> ( I don't miss any of it though, there are so much new toys
>> to play with, or
>> old toys to keep alive for a 57 year old hacker....)
>>
>> PPPS: Finally - coming back to the OB425: Where elsewhere do
>> we find a real
>> PC running on 4 AA's?
>> and with those new 3000mAh AA NiMh batteries it runs forever.
>> And my OB800 now has a 4400mAh Li-Ion now....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:51:03 +0200
>> From: Andrew Lovell 
>> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>> To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list 
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I would like to thank Reed Turner and Christopher Erickson for their
>> advice. I will go straight down to the computer shop and get a
>> Cardbus / USB card.
>>
>> The help given by members of the Omnibook list is quite invaluable.
>> When the web site comes alive again, I will have to download all the
>> manuals, so I can "upgrade" to Win98SE or Ubuntu and use the USB card.
>>
>> "Modern" laptops may be OK, but the keyboard and form factor have
>> allowed me to work with my 600 on shaky regional trains. This is
>> worth much more than fancy graphics and ability to use the
>> latest windoze
>> GUI.
>>
>> Yours
>>
>> Andrew Lovell
>>
>> At 01:28 08-09-11, you wrote:
>>>Just a comment on the USB adapters - the OB800 has a cardbus slot
>>>and the pcmcia USB 2.0 adapters that are common on ebay will work in
>>>them. I was never able to find a pcmcia to usb adapter that would
>>>work on the 425/430 models.
>>>
>>>Reed
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:09:55 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>> From: Kevin Curran 
>> Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>> To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list ,
>> HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list 
>> Message-ID:
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>> > rthlink.net>
>>
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>>
>> Sorry, my mistake, ahem, hibernating.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Michel Bel 
>>>Sent: Sep 11, 2008 3:57 AM
>>>To: HP Omnibook Notebook Computer list 
>>>Subject: Re: [OB] My $.02 's worth.
>>>
>>>Kevin Curran wrote:
>>>> Ta Da!!, I revived the OB425's using fresh double AA's overnight.
>>>> Thank you all for your suggestions. This list, even in
>> its moribund
>>>> phase, gets things done. Thank you all.
>>>>
>>>My word, Kevin...Moribund? Shame on you - It's called
>> _'hibernating'_
>>>- just waiting for a new spring. 
>>>
>>>OK, with - finally- those new (old hat) netbooks finally
>> popping up, WE
>>>are the ones that survived the long winter on
>>>our OB's, and know what those things really should do. Evolution
>>>apparently finally caught up after 15 years, with ASUS
>>>reviving the concept that HP discarded, (Although PSION
>> tried to keep
>>>alive with it's NetBook, but the CE handheld concept
>>>requires it's own hackers, e.g. on http://www.hpcfactor.com
>> et al. - and
>>>oh yes, we run Linux on our HP Jornada's now, and
>>>our NEC 900C's handhelds )
>>>
>>>And still - running a lean DSL Linux on an OB800CT with refurbished
>>>batteries and a 4GB CF card in lieu of a hard disk,
>>>( Total refurbish cost about $40) keeps it well up with the new
>>>netbooks. Now why doesn't my pop-up mouse work yet in DSL...
>>>Anyway, I still have instant-on, now on a mixed W95/Linux
>> system. And it
>>>even has WIFI/WPA (under DSL that is).
>>>
>>>Michel
>>>PS: (still there) and still in love with good old hardware
>>>
>>>- OB 425, 600C, 800CT 166/80MB
>>>- 95LX, 100LX, 200LX, 700LX
>>>- Jornada 720 with Jlime linux, Nec 900C with cmonex rom
>> and/or jlime
>>>henchman linux
>>>- more older antiques waiting for display room: Epson PX-8 etc...
>>>
>>>PPS: Oh yes, my first PC ( really Personal Computer) was the
>>>university's DEC PDP-8 in a corner
>>>of the computer center of the Math building.
>>>wholly personal, with big 8KB of memory, a real teletype ASR-33 for
>>>input and output,
>>>and with real DecTape random access storage to load FOCAL.
>>>In 1972 much better than the faster CDC/Cyber; no waiting in line,
>>>punching cards
>>>and waiting for the batch output...
>>>Oh, those memories of REAL cut-and-paste (papertape FYI).....
>>>( I don't miss any of it though, there are so much new toys to play
>>>with, or old toys to
>>>keep alive for a 57 year old hacker....)
>>>
>>>PPPS: Finally - coming back to the OB425: Where elsewhere
>> do we find a
>>>real PC running on 4 AA's?
>>>and with those new 3000mAh AA NiMh batteries it runs forever.
>>>And my OB800 now has a 4400mAh Li-Ion now....
>>>
>>>
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>>>Omnibook at lists.elektro.com
>>>http://lists.elektro.com/mailman/listinfo/omnibook
>>
>>
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